Tough to get! So we had to create something completely unique. Four separate cymbals sandwiched together. They have different shoulders so they collapse against each other at every hit. The result is incredible. A very unique sound that blends beautifully with ghost notes and other subdivisions, but can also make a very percussive statement. Always sounds perfect without any unwanted noise or sustaining ring. You can hear it on all my recent recordings and it has become part of my sound. Check it out. It‘s such a useful instrument. I absolutely love it. Features Designed by Meinl Cymbals artist & R&D team Unique cymbal stack combinations Truly innovative sounds Specifications Cymbal Type: Stack Weight: Thin Size Top: 8? Size Bottom: 8? Music Style: Electro, Jazz, R&B, Studio, World, Reggae, Pop, Fusion Pitch: High-Mid Character: Trashiness, Mellow Timbre: Mid-Bright Volume: Low Lathe: None Sustain: Short Material: B8 Bronze; B20 Bronze Finish: Raw Shaping: Hand Hammering To Clean: Meinl Cymbal Cleaner